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Numerical solution for trascendental equations

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Giacomo Db
Giacomo Db le 13 Fév 2022
Commenté : Giacomo Db le 14 Fév 2022
i would like to solve the following trascendental eqn using the following code:
syms omega
syms a
omega = sqrt(a^(2) - 1) - a*exp(-(2*pi - asin(1/a))/(omega));
z=solve(omega)
Eventually i would like to plot (omega,a)
but i get the Warning: The solutions are parametrized by the symbols:
k = Z_ minus {(log((a^2 - 1)^(1/2)/a)*I)/(2*PI)}
do you have any suggestion to solve this type of eqns?
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Paul
Paul le 13 Fév 2022
Running the code here exactly as it was presented yields a different result.
syms omega
syms a
omega = sqrt(a^(2) - 1) - a*exp(-(2*pi - asin(1/a))/(omega));
z = solve(omega)
z = 
As best I can tell, what this code is really doing is
clear omega
syms omega
eq1 = sqrt(a^(2) - 1) - a*exp(-(2*pi - asin(1/a))/(omega));
z = solve(eq1,omega) % solve the equation eq1 == 0
z = 
subs(eq1,omega,z)
ans = 
0
Are you sure about this line:
omega = sqrt(a^(2) - 1) - a*exp(-(2*pi - asin(1/a))/(omega));
Just asking because it looks peculilar to have omega on the LHS and the RHS of an assignment.
Giacomo Db
Giacomo Db le 14 Fév 2022
thanks

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Walter Roberson
Walter Roberson le 13 Fév 2022
If your values are confined to real then as far as I can see at this time of night, substitute 0 for k in the answer you get.
MATLAB computes a general solution. However because asin is periodic, a periodic solution has to be given. That leads to the general solution having a term of + 2*pi*1i*k, with integer k, except that there are particular a values that the term is not valid for.
Notice that the term is complex valued when k is not 0. So the immediate instinct would be to say "Oh, k has to be zero then, to avoid the complex values."
But... the expression involved itself has complex terms, and also involves log of a value that could be negative, which would generate a complex value. So hypothetically there might be a range of integer k values and a values such that there are an even number of 1i, leading to a real-valued result.
My analysis suggests that there are no real solutions at all for k ~= 0, and that for k=0 there are solutions only for a>1. But it might be worth rechecking non-zero k, as my late-night analysis for that case might not have been thorough enough.
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Giacomo Db
Giacomo Db le 14 Fév 2022
thank you so much for the help.
in the end i solved numerically using vpasolve

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