I have:
clearclc
x=[7.53*10^(-5) 3.17*10^(-4) 1.07*10^(-3) 3.75*10^(-3) 1.35*10^(-2) 4.45*10^(-2) 1.75*10^(-1) 5.86*10^(-1)];
y=[0.50 0.55 0.60 0.65 0.70 0.75 0.80 0.85];
but I need do find n and I0 from:
I = I0 * e^( (q*U)/(n*k*T) )
I already know q, U, k and T.

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Alan Stevens
Alan Stevens le 10 Sep 2022
Modifié(e) : Alan Stevens le 10 Sep 2022
What are the equivalents of x and y in your equation? Presumably, y represents I. What does x represent?
Sebastian
Sebastian le 10 Sep 2022
x=I and y=U

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Alan Stevens
Alan Stevens le 10 Sep 2022
Modifié(e) : Alan Stevens le 10 Sep 2022

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In that case one way is to take logs of both sides to get:
log(I) = log(I0) + q/(n*k*T)*U
then do a best-fit straight line to the data (use log(x)) and get log(I0) from the intercept and q/(n*k*T) from the slope, from which yoiu can then get I0 and n.

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Sebastian
Sebastian le 10 Sep 2022
Modifié(e) : Sebastian le 10 Sep 2022
I started with matlab yesterday so I need help with how I would do that?
clear
clc
x=[7.53*10^(-5) 3.17*10^(-4) 1.07*10^(-3) 3.75*10^(-3) 1.35*10^(-2) 4.45*10^(-2) 1.75*10^(-1) 5.86*10^(-1)];
y=[0.50 0.55 0.60 0.65 0.70 0.75 0.80 0.85];
p=polyfit(x,y,1);
f=polyval(p,x);
plot(x,y,'o',x,f,'-');
Like this
x=[7.53*10^(-5) 3.17*10^(-4) 1.07*10^(-3) 3.75*10^(-3) 1.35*10^(-2) 4.45*10^(-2) 1.75*10^(-1) 5.86*10^(-1)];
y=[0.50 0.55 0.60 0.65 0.70 0.75 0.80 0.85];
% You said x = I and U = y so
p=polyfit(y,log10(x),1);
f=polyval(p,y);
plot(y,log10(x),'o',y,f,'-'), grid
xlabel('U'),ylabel('logI')
% Intercept is p(2), slope is p(1)
I0 = 10^p(2);
q_on_nkT = p(1); % You need to rearrange this to get n, using
% your known values for q, k and T
disp(I0)
2.4861e-10
disp(q_on_nkT)
11.0383
Sebastian
Sebastian le 10 Sep 2022
Modifié(e) : Sebastian le 10 Sep 2022
I have q = 1.60*10^(-19), k=1.38*10^(-23) and t=300
I get n = 1.5966
using n=(q*y)/(k*t*(log(x)-log(I0)))
the correct n is 1.521
x=[7.53*10^(-5) 3.17*10^(-4) 1.07*10^(-3) 3.75*10^(-3) 1.35*10^(-2) 4.45*10^(-2) 1.75*10^(-1) 5.86*10^(-1)];
y=[0.50 0.55 0.60 0.65 0.70 0.75 0.80 0.85];
% You said x = I and U = y so
p=polyfit(y,log(x),1);
f=polyval(p,y);
figure(1)
plot(y,log(x),'o',y,f,'-'), grid
xlabel('U'),ylabel('logI')
% Intercept is p(2), slope is p(1)
I0 = exp(p(2));
q_on_nkT = p(1); % You need to rearrange this to get n, using
% your known values for q, k and T
q = 1.60*10^(-19);
k = 1.38*10^(-23);
T = 300;
n = q/(k*T*q_on_nkT);
disp(I0)
2.4861e-10
disp(n)
1.5206
figure(2)
plot(y,x,'o',y,I0*exp(q/(k*T)*y/n),'-'), grid
xlabel('U'),ylabel('I')

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Torsten
Torsten le 10 Sep 2022
Modifié(e) : Torsten le 10 Sep 2022
I = [7.53*10^(-5) 3.17*10^(-4) 1.07*10^(-3) 3.75*10^(-3) 1.35*10^(-2) 4.45*10^(-2) 1.75*10^(-1) 5.86*10^(-1)];
U = [0.50 0.55 0.60 0.65 0.70 0.75 0.80 0.85];
q = 1.60*10^(-19);
k = 1.38*10^(-23) ;
T = 300;
value = q/(k*T);
fun = @(I0,n) I - I0 * exp( value * U / n );
p0 = [1 ; 10]; % Initial guess for I0 and n
options = optimset('TolX',1e-10,'TolFun',1e-10,'MaxFunEvals',100000,'MaxIter',100000);
sol = lsqnonlin(@(p)fun(p(1),p(2)),p0,[],[],options);
Local minimum possible. lsqnonlin stopped because the final change in the sum of squares relative to its initial value is less than the value of the function tolerance.
format long
I0 = sol(1)
I0 =
4.840384083194344e-10
n = sol(2)
n =
1.570628124624527
hold on
plot(U,I,'o')
plot(U,I0 * exp( value * U / n ))
grid
hold off

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Sebastian
Sebastian le 10 Sep 2022
sorry, I don't have lsqnonlin
Torsten
Torsten le 10 Sep 2022
Modifié(e) : Torsten le 10 Sep 2022
I = [7.53*10^(-5) 3.17*10^(-4) 1.07*10^(-3) 3.75*10^(-3) 1.35*10^(-2) 4.45*10^(-2) 1.75*10^(-1) 5.86*10^(-1)];
U = [0.50 0.55 0.60 0.65 0.70 0.75 0.80 0.85];
q = 1.60*10^(-19);
k = 1.38*10^(-23) ;
T = 300;
value = q/(k*T);
fun = @(I0,n) I - I0 * exp( value * U / n );
p0 = [1 ; 10]; % Initial guess for I0 and n
options = optimset('TolX',1e-10,'TolFun',1e-10,'MaxFunEvals',100000,'MaxIter',100000);
sol = fminsearch(@(p)sum(fun(p(1),p(2)).^2),p0,options);
format long
I0 = sol(1)
I0 =
4.840330426445296e-10
n = sol(2)
n =
1.570627287586739
hold on
plot(U,I,'o')
plot(U,I0 * exp( value * U / n ))
grid
hold off
Sebastian
Sebastian le 10 Sep 2022
Modifié(e) : Sebastian le 10 Sep 2022
I0 and n are both wrong.
I0 = 0.249*10^(-9)
and
n = 1.521
Torsten
Torsten le 10 Sep 2022
Modifié(e) : Torsten le 10 Sep 2022
No, you are wrong.
Applying log to your equation distorts the fitting.
You must fit I0*exp(value * U / n) against U to get unbiased estimates for your parameters.
Fitting log(I0) + value/n * U against log(U) only gives an approximation for I0 and n.

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